santa cruz beach babes

[aceofspades]

i was at santa cruz beach yesterday and i saw a 10 with a her ugly friend (6) laying there tanning. so i approach them with the "oh i have a roommate who keeps stuff of his ex under his bed and now his current gf wants to break up with him, what do you think?" they responded big time. but then when the 10 would laugh i told the 6 that "haha it's cute how your friends nose wiggles when she laughs" and they reacted "huh what?." (with a confused face). then after using that opener i didn't know where else to go guys, i brought up a story about my ex gf being a supermodel and my loyal friends to demonstrate higher value but after telling them the 10 said, "how does that have anything to do with your question about ex gf's roommate?" and i tried to connect it but she just looked at me like i'm bullshitting. and i felt like she had higher value, i could no longer neg her with out looking stupid. what i'm really trying to say is that i don't know where to go after the opener and how to captivate my set with my stories at the same time putting the time constraint and being able to neg the target. you have any advice? or any routines you used to do?

[dreamweaver]

One thing that I fall back on when I hit a wall and don't have a good transition is to ask the set how they know each other. This is not a great emotional spiking method and does create attraction but it keeps you going and gives you more information that you can feed on.

Depending on the answer, you can then banter and cold read them. Make fun of one of them for being the bad one, try to figure out which one would win in a fight, do the best friends test, disqualify one of them saying you guys would never get along, role play with one of them. This is what I would do in a two set of girls, a mixed two set I would not do this as it would be too flirty and I would try to be more neutral.

In this scenario, that would have also helped you to identify the guy was just an orbitor.

I also believe more in giving value vs. negging. Instead of trying to bring her value down, I would try to give them value by telling them that they are cool, seem fun, etc. Especially giving value to the guy in a mixed set - you seem cool bro, you roll with good looking women, etc. This will disarm him which will be helpful regardless of their relationship.

[aceofspades]

hey thanks a lot bro!